How could this have happened? [Archive] (2023)

JeremyT

10-24-09, 11:45 am

Its been a while since I posted here, for multiple reasons. But I have to ask the question how could this have happened? This is both a telling of a story, and a looking for guidance. G diesel, and the rest of the crew if you read this do not think me a weak unmotivated sob looking for attention, I truthfully need a bit of advice.

When I started working out last year I was 6'3" tall, and 130 pounds. I was a twig. I ate as much as I could all of the time. Used three 10lb containers of weight gainer, drank 1000 calorie shakes that I made, I tripled all of my lifts, and went upto my heaviest weight of 170 pounds. I was feeling big and huge, getting stronger. Eight months at school lead into the summer, and with work, I could schedule my eating better, concentrated more on whole foods, and got even stronger. Then, as i had to assume would happen at some point. My whole life went to hell. My gran had a stroke and died, the girl who I was going to marry left me for her ex, I just sorta crumbled. I started smoking a pack a day again, and doing countless other drugs. I hate myself for it. I went from 170 pounds back down to 145. I lost all my muscle, and all my strength. My body has this ability to just rip weight off. It just wants to be light.

Somethings happened to my body over the course of the past year, and I still have no idea why. I'm going to be asking for some diet advice from you guys, but first you need to know what happened and why its been impossible to gain any weight at all. First I am lactose intolerant, so all dairy is out the window. My body seemingly cannot process anything with a saturated fat content of more then 15 grams in one sitting, so any fast food is out. I also can't eat beef, pork, or oatmeal, without spending half the day in bed holding my stomach from the gas pain, and the other half on the toilet. Peanut butter eaten in the morning, or anytime really more then a tbsp, has the same effect.

I ask you guys. Am I a lost cause? I basically have nixed most of all of your diets. I weighed myself this morning. 143 pounds. I hate myself for it. Hate. But I feel there is nothing that I can do. No matter what weight I achieve, if I stop eating as much, my body doesn't drop a couple pounds, but 15-20 pounds. No one can figure out why. I am on the brink of just saying, fuck it, I'm not even going to bother with eating anymore, as the money spent on food just seems like such a waste.

I just don't know what to do bro's. I think due to my stomach and my ability to loose stupid amounts of weight, lifting isn't something that I can do, and I think I may just have to walk away and deal with the anger. But fuck I hate quitting.

intoodeep25

10-24-09, 12:34 pm

prowrestler

10-24-09, 12:58 pm

body building staple of time...chicken and rice.

find what foods work for you, and eat a shit load of them. if you quit when it gets ruff, you LET your enemy win.

everything in life is hard, thats why only a few people actualy go places in life, while the majority of the flock of zombie like tapeworms go no where.

now im gonna say this cuz i have balls, i honestly feel that 90% of the human race do not matter when it comes down to it. we ARE NOT all created equally. most of the worlds population mean dick all to the majority. only a hand few are actualy established and succesful. it takes a certain quality to forge yourself into a succesful human being. its that "it" factor. this "it" factor is what seperates the winners from the loosers.
the few who do succeed in life are busting ass every day to reach their goals and don't have an ounce of quit in them.

are you gonna do something or quit , and be like the many who waste life?

Mr. Dead

10-24-09, 1:00 pm

IronWilson

10-24-09, 3:08 pm

Oils can help here. Olive oil and Macadamia Nut Oil pack a calorie punch of awesome healthy fats. And they will keep you regular, but thats good and what they are supposed to do.

As was said already, experiment with what works for you. But be careful to not write anything off until you have tried it under many different conditions.

mahscles

10-24-09, 3:44 pm

IRN-NML

10-24-09, 3:52 pm

Northman

10-24-09, 5:56 pm

WeeMan

10-26-09, 6:07 am

Maccabee

10-26-09, 9:07 am

I have the same exact problems as you in regards to food and I weigh 210 lbs.

I am lactose, I can not consume mass quantities of all the foods you listed because my stomach goes crazy as well. Except for peanut butter.

Guess What? I weigh 210 lbs. When I started training I weighed between 130-140 lbs.

No Excuses!

Protein: Eggs, Fish, Chicken

People have this idea that you cant grow on these foods and they are wrong as hell. Eggs has a full amino acid profile. Fish has loads of healthy fats. Chicken is easily digested by the human body. Take advantage of that.

Carbs: Eat yams, whole wheat pasta, or basmati rice

Fats: You dont have to eat peanut butter. There are other nuts like almond butter, primrose oil, extra virgin olive oil, coconut oil, avacadoe, mac nut oil.

YOU HAVE PLENTY OF OPTIONS.

Start slowly again. Start eating 4 meals daily. Once you can do that and you stop growing add another one.

You did it before and you can do it again.

JeremyT

10-26-09, 11:38 am

Alright guys. Went to the gym on saturday night with a buddy of mine. He convinced me to come for his chest/tris day even just to spot him as last time he was there some idiot let 225 pounds drop on his chest. Once I was there, with all the familiar sounds and smells of the gym, I just had to lift. Had a stupid good time. I'm going back to hit legs with him tonight, and I talked to him about making it a solid routine and he said sure, as he likes to have a workout partner.

I used to hate fish, but since all this happened, I have been eating a ton of it. Also watching the Ox video where he talks about fish inspired me to try it, and its really damn good. Salmon, trout, perch, tilapia, all so good. I'm trying to bang out a menu here. This is how I was eating before mostly.

Meal 1 - 4 whole eggs, 2 pieces of whole grain toast, apple, glass of OJ

Meal 2 - Banana, whey shake

Meal 3 - Chicken/fish, pasta/rice/potatoes, some kind of vege, milk

Meal 4 - Whey shake (i dunno what else to put here for carbs, is it okay to eat 2 banana's a day)

Meal 5 - same as meal 3

Workout

Meal 6 - WM and whey shake

Meal 7 - not sure if this is required as i go to bed soon after i get home from my workout, but most people say to eat again.

I know this is real rough, but im not sure what proportions I should be eating about stuff. I like to have variety, and get bored eating the same thing every day, but i would like to be at least somewhat consistent.

Aggression

10-26-09, 11:43 am

What worked for you when you went from 130 to 170? Just get back on a similar track. Staples of mine in the offseason are: chicken, eggs, rice, potatoes (for what you can eat). Rely on those. Yeah, it might be bland, but it'll work, and that's what important. Fish is an excellent choice.

As far as proportions goes, start off with a certain amount and see how you feel. Are you still hungry? Add more. Are you extremely full? Then pull it back a bit. You should feel full, but not engorged. Stick with that until you stop gaining. Once you're no longer adding weight, then add a bit more protein to each meal.

N. Motta

10-26-09, 11:47 am

I hate to be Mr. Obvious here, but smoking a pack a day and doing 'countless other drugs' have NO place in a healthy lifestyle, let alone a bodybuilders lifestyle.

Based on what you have wrote so far, you know better than that. You ARE better than that.

Razor

10-26-09, 1:13 pm

Come to the next Ontario ABC. PM me.

Heh. Do this FOR SURE. Talk about motivation! The ABC here in Illinois definitely opened my eyes.

GJN5002

10-26-09, 1:35 pm

IRBS

10-26-09, 1:45 pm

sounds like you have food allegries. go to an allergist and have a panel done. It may be only a few foods setting your body off and you can avoid them. The human body is meant to eat food and if you have trouble eating so many foods, you have something wrong. Another option may be digestive enzymes. Go see a doctor first, it may be as simple as avoiding certain foods.

x2

arsilva

10-26-09, 4:52 pm

I never post up on the forvm anymore, but i'm glad i stumbled across this thread.
Bro, if you think you have diet issues, your situation is PREMIUM compared to mine.

Foods I am unable to eat on a regular basis:
Any kind of potato
Rice, corn, wheat, oats, any other type of grain
Ground beef, ground turkey
Dairy (milk, etc) Not just from lactose, but from the milk proteins themselves.
Whey protein, Casein protien powders
Chicken
Eggs
Soy

Some of these are tolerable like once a week, such as a trip to ihop for an omlette every 2 weeks or so.

Usually, though, my diet consists of seafood, fruits, vegetables, and sweet potatoes (i've been eating sweet potatoes up until recently, when they started having negative effects on my body)

The point of all this?---It can be done. You just have to be willing to branch out for carb, fat, and protein sources, and know that maybe you won't see gains as quickly as a guy who can pound 50g protein in a whey shake immediately after every workout.

willah

10-26-09, 8:16 pm

Come to the next Ontario ABC. PM me.

Quoted for truth. There's a thread going, it'd be my first one too man, love to see you there.

K Stro24

10-27-09, 12:42 am

as far as your lactose intolerance goes, many people are in the same ship, like myself. some have it worse than others, but what has helped me is iso whey since its lactose free. but recently, ive said fuck it, im not gonna be deprived of shit i wanna eat or drink bc my body cant take it, go buy a lactose supplement, i think i have lactaid brand pills. 60 of em for about 12 bucks is what it ran me. i wouldnt suggest popping one and then guzzling a gallon of milk tho, taking two seemed to help tho.

but what you have to remember, when push comes to shove, are you gonna walk away? will you cower in the face of fear, or overcome it? a coward dies a 1,000 times, a warrior dies once.

violator

10-27-09, 6:55 am

sounds like you have food allegries. go to an allergist and have a panel done. It may be only a few foods setting your body off and you can avoid them. ....

Putting ur body thru hell via the toxins in alcohol and drugs can also take its toll on ur CNS... if u experience a reaction to certain foods and lactose it may also be that uve killed off a lot of the beneficial bacteria in ur colon... doing a colon cleanse & supplementing with pro-biotics and fibre for a month or two may greatly benefit you...